now the editor has been clashing with the obama white house. how does its handling of the media compare to previous administrations? i spoke to him earlier here in studio one. >> bob woodward, welcome. >> thank you. you concluded in your book "the price of politics" that president obama had failed to lead. now we're hearing that he failed to lead on nsa foreign surveillance, didn't know the details, we're hearing that he failed to lead on the obama carolout, has it taken the media too long to reach this analysis? >> well, you've got to be empirical about it. and that's not to take the republicans off the hook for all the budget problems. but the president has to find a way to work his will. as you recount all of this, and as i do, you see that the president is the one who calls people to the white house. they don't call him to the congress. and -- >> but it's more -- >> he has the hammer. >> you as an author had to reach a conclusion. and some people criticize you for that. i understand even today some in the white house are not that happy with